tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post7281094530451600897..comments2023-10-29T17:43:27.054+07:00Comments on café salemba: High Rice Price QuizUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-5012592175010352642008-04-29T03:55:00.000+07:002008-04-29T03:55:00.000+07:00Hafiz, if you understand Bahasa Indonesia, you may...<B>Hafiz</B>, if you understand Bahasa Indonesia, you may want to read pieces by your other barrista, Aco, <A HTTP://DISKUSIEKONOMI.BLOGSPOT.COM/2008/04/EKONOMI-POLITIK-BERAS-3-AAP.HTML HREF: HREF="" REL="nofollow">here in Diskusi Ekonomi</A>. You can find the Indonesian story of rice protectionismRizalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00173988218021291027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-70761870830166554002008-04-28T15:06:00.000+07:002008-04-28T15:06:00.000+07:00Ah, okay then. I apologize for I'm unfamiliar with...Ah, okay then. I apologize for I'm unfamiliar with local scenario. But one thing is clear, protectionists everywhere should be thrown out of the window. =)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-77744183133951858422008-04-28T12:01:00.000+07:002008-04-28T12:01:00.000+07:00Hafiz, my reply to Dendi refers to the situation s...<B>Hafiz</B>, my reply to Dendi refers to the situation some months ago when many Indonesian pundits, politicians, and government officials, refused to import rice when the domestic price is higher than the international --in defense of rice farmers, and at the cost of rice consumers. <BR/><BR/>It means to be a hypothetical ironic example for policy inconsistency with unclear objective. Hope it clarifies.Rizalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00173988218021291027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-89050824540982070702008-04-28T11:29:00.000+07:002008-04-28T11:29:00.000+07:00I apologize for the double-post but:Refering to Ri...I apologize for the double-post but:<BR/><BR/>Refering to Rizal's reply to Dendi which states import should have *solved* the problem, I'd like to point out that that's not necessarily so. With the international prices being higher than Indonesian prices, I don't think import would do the job, unless the Indonesian government is willing to subsidized the imported rice. The only real way of lowering the prices in the short run is through subsidy.<BR/><BR/>On the natural state (free market), there's a tendency for Indonesian rice prices to increase to achieve parity with the international prices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-68563880594347631082008-04-28T11:06:00.000+07:002008-04-28T11:06:00.000+07:00Refering to Rizal's reply to Dendi which states im...Refering to Rizal's reply to Dendi which states import should have done the problem, I'd like to point out that not necessarily. With the international prices being higher than Indonesian prices, I don't think import would do the job, unless the Indonesian government is willing to subsidized the imported rice.<BR/><BR/>On the natural state (free market), there's a tendency for Indonesian rice prices to increase to achieve parity with the international prices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-90422669264621399542008-04-24T06:30:00.000+07:002008-04-24T06:30:00.000+07:00totally agreeing with you, the lack of consistency...totally agreeing with you, the lack of consistency is truly worrying with this gov't.<BR/><BR/>aren't you guys supposed to be advising them?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13453903374418067594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-13175569315671848502008-04-24T03:38:00.000+07:002008-04-24T03:38:00.000+07:00if yes, i have a tax-cut approach. if inflation ra...if yes, i have a tax-cut approach. if inflation rate is high and rice price increases so high, so the value added tax should be released on domestic rice/rice product price. i think is wiser than government intervens in supply side of global market.<BR/><BR/>there are poor people desperately need rice but can't afford because of some Asian governments banned or restricted rice exports, causing panic on global markets.<BR/><BR/>domestic tax and balance of trade should be managed separately and i think in mutually exclusive event. so choose the domestic tax approach.Anymattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15417170603768510851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-9079062760750726962008-04-23T21:48:00.000+07:002008-04-23T21:48:00.000+07:00Anymatters, I don't know. Do you?Dendi, if the gov...<B>Anymatters</B>, I don't know. Do you?<BR/><BR/><B>Dendi</B>, if the government does concern on the short term goal, that is low rice price, import would have been done that time. The problem is: policymakers tend to read food security as autarky --and shut international trade as one mean to achieve such food security. <BR/><BR/><B>Dodo</B>, I support international trade, that is, both export and import. Let the market work. If the price is too high/low, one should adjust production and substitute consumption. Keeping trade barriers prevents this needed and normal flexibility.Rizalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00173988218021291027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-49934362870611219422008-04-23T14:33:00.000+07:002008-04-23T14:33:00.000+07:00mr rizal, I agree that the one who oppose import, ...mr rizal, I agree that the one who oppose import, but now against the export plan is inconsistent. <BR/><BR/>however, by saying implicitly that u support the export plan, isn it u're also being incosistent? <BR/><BR/>(I assume that u agreed to import using the rice consumers argument on rice import case)<BR/><BR/>thxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-41710775747914289412008-04-23T14:26:00.000+07:002008-04-23T14:26:00.000+07:00I think the gov. concerns only short term goals, w...I think the gov. concerns only short term goals, which is to maintain low price, but the gov. forgets long term goals, which is to increase productivity and to produce more rice. Why? Since election will be held next year in 2009.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-89430250166679387362008-04-23T07:04:00.000+07:002008-04-23T07:04:00.000+07:00does rice product get value added tax?does rice product get value added tax?Anymattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15417170603768510851noreply@blogger.com