tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post6556613649360485165..comments2023-10-29T17:43:27.054+07:00Comments on café salemba: Hajj pilgrim and randomized experimentsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-91519470993720799682008-12-26T08:08:00.000+07:002008-12-26T08:08:00.000+07:00@ape: it's just my overall impression after skimmi...@ape: it's just my overall impression after skimming the paper. in any case, follow-up studies are definitely in order (e.g. difference-in-differences type of studies tracking change of beliefs and attitudes as a result of exposure to members of outgroups would help clarify the present issue).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-11540679589211669352008-12-25T23:30:00.000+07:002008-12-25T23:30:00.000+07:00Taufik/Berly: yes, it is a possible threat to vali...Taufik/Berly: yes, it is a possible threat to validity, indeed. But does the hajj visa process really look or filter such behavior or indications (like the process to get a US visa, for example)? I think quota allocated to each country matters more for someone to obtain a hajj visa. Can anyone who has been to the pilgrim or applied for the visa confirm this? Also, remember that this study is specific to Pakistanis hajj pilgrimers.<BR/><BR/>Tirta: my impression was they attributed the behavior change to the whole hajj experience. Anyway, this is a journalist report of a study so I'll check with the original paper. But, can you tell me how did you get such impression? Maybe I overlooked the article.a.p.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10803193376611057742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-76041259960968741552008-12-25T20:54:00.000+07:002008-12-25T20:54:00.000+07:00Very smart point Fik.There could be a self selecti...Very smart point Fik.<BR/><BR/>There could be a self selection bias in the population going for hajj. <BR/><BR/>Those wanting to go already has some calling and behavioral propensity so the process of hajj itself might be enhancing rather than changing.<BR/><BR/>would be great to know the degree and depth of interaction during hajj and how it correlated with the result.<BR/><BR/>Might also interesting to compare between haji abidin (finance by state/other people) and self finance with hajj cost as percentage of income as additional variable.Berlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11277891530068241376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-20017045040058152952008-12-25T06:59:00.000+07:002008-12-25T06:59:00.000+07:00throughout the paper, the authors seem to draw a l...throughout the paper, the authors seem to draw a lot of insights from social psychology literature, suggesting *contact* with people from other countries during the hajj as the main mechanism behind the pilgrims' change of views. <BR/><BR/>yet, at the same time, they argue that the hajj itself is responsible for the more positive characteristics.<BR/><BR/>surely the two are nowhere near equatable. so this, i find, is rather preplexing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-53651819805274243002008-12-25T03:48:00.000+07:002008-12-25T03:48:00.000+07:00Could it be, though, that the people who were reje...Could it be, though, that the people who were rejected during their visa applications were actually denied a visa because of reasons correlated with those xenophobic/hostile/fanatic characteristics?<BR/><BR/>That seems a more likely explanation than "the hajj completely transforms its pilgrims into a tolerant, open-minded, and anti-Osama people". Keep in mind, there was no "before" interview, only an "after", so we can't really track changes in individual behavior.<BR/><BR/>Although, I must admit, it would be much better if it were the latter explanation rather than the former.Fikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10626288446378216940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18156735.post-1302128057372448642008-12-25T03:43:00.000+07:002008-12-25T03:43:00.000+07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10626288446378216940noreply@blogger.com