But then, refraining yourself from eating and drinking (and smoking and having sexual relationship) during the day is the essence of fasting, isn’t it? Giving up one’s utility from eating and drinking is and individual choice. Then, respecting those who fast is a matter of respecting property rights and personal choice. When it’s a personal choice, no one is justified to force them to eat or drink during the day (or tease them or humiliate them).
Similarly, it’s an individual choice not to fast. And the non-fasting people also have the rights to remain eating, smoking or drinking. No one is justified to ask them to stop, in the name of ‘respecting the fast.’ And during the night, whether one was fasting in the day or not, one has the right to spend the night in café or pubs. The café or restaurant owners have the right to do keep their business open at any time. Nobody has any justifications to prevent anyone to go to restaurants at any time. Nobody possesses the right to force restaurants, pubs or cafes to close at any time. (Unless, of course, if the pubs create noise that prevent one from sleeping.)
The rights to perform fasting as a religious duty include the rights to tell others that it is already time to start fasting when they are OK to be told (or when they asked you to do so). Similarly, people have also the rights to remain sleeping and not being disturbed by ‘wake up calls’ from masjids or minutemen. Hence, in my opinion, those shouting ‘sahur… sahur…’ using megaphone from masjids are abusing own’s right, and violating other’s property rights. The solution is simple: use alarm clock, telephone, or if it necessary, put a sign in front of your house that you want to be waken up.
Religion | Ramadhan
I wonder why people fast? If it is to gain respect from others, then it is quite selfish.
ReplyDeleteI respect people who earn it, I would not respect someone just because he/she fasts.
I would never insult a religious person's beliefs, but I will not give them respect _just_like_that.
In any case, how many of those religious ppl demanding respect, would respect my atheism?!
johnorford,
ReplyDeletethere is no compulsion in religion, that is a verse in the Qur'an, meaning that Islam does not force an atheist to believe. in practice, it is may not be the case. my advice to you -echoing the famous Baba Ali in Youtube- is not to look up to muslims. seek islam, not muslims.
in my experience, the enlightened muslims are too busy saving their own selves from hell fire, that they can't be bothered by trivias such as gaining respect from others, let alone forcing all the atheists in the world to convert.
as the banner that ape mention, i can't blame whoever put it there. the callousness of fellow muslims to others who fasts in Jakarta is such that some thought it requires a banner to remind them. if my dear jewish friend was willing to refrain from ordering wine so that i could dine with her at the same table, why can't fellow muslims refrain from eating freely in front of others who fast?
KK
i do think that you read too much into those. my observation concludes that none of those 'public service announcement' banners ever make sense.
ReplyDeletethe root of problem is partly psychophysiological, because the assumption taken is that when hungry, we are temped to eat when seeing someone who does. all would be much easier if eating isn't as contagious.
ReplyDeletemajority matters. nothing special.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's simply because it's been the convention forever. So, some people think that being "respected" during Ramadhan is their right.
ReplyDeleteTo change long lived tradition may not be easy, unfortunately...
I think minorities are in greater need of respect in Indonesia - such as sexual minorities. I pity them, rather than those Muslims having a hard time through Ramadan. Also if one wasn't tempted to break a fast then there'd be little point in fasting in the first place, it's a matter of mind of body!
ReplyDeleteApe, I believe that the third signal is the appropriate one. We can see in Padang, Ambon, Banjarmasin, and Bogor where there was a sweeping for small-restoran and 'warung' which still open during the day.
ReplyDeleteWell, if they only force the restoran to close that's fine. But I saw on tv that they also take away the food and throwed it into garbage bin and take the cooking utensil as it violating the law. Isn't that the same as taking all the source of living for those people?? Is that the true meaning of 'ramadhan'?
haha... funny...
ReplyDeletejelas2 minoritas itu yang harus menghormati mayoritas
dimana2 begitulah kenyataannya sungguh bodoh klo ga tau hal seperti ini
ex: hari nyepi di bali dan lo ternyata ribut2 teriak2 di jalan kuta jelas2 mereka pasti marah dong karena ibadah mereka diganggu, begitupun dengan puasa itu 'ibadah' dan bila ibadah diganggu ya namanya kelewatan, wajar klo ada yang merasa perlu dihormati.
dan masalah 'sign' gua buat perumpamaan yang sederhana
dulu ada orang sering parkir dipinggir jalan sudirman padahal disitu dilarang parkir tapi karena tidak ada tandanya dia tidak tahu larangan tersebut, akhirnya dipasang tanda dilarang parkir, ada sebagian yang telah mengetahui tanda itu maka mereka tidak parkir disana lagi, tapi ada beberapa orang bodoh yang tetap parkir disana, tapi ada yang lebih bodoh dari orang itu, yaitu orang yang menanyakan apa arti tanda 'S-disilang' tersebut
just refer to jml said
ReplyDeletemajority matters. nothing special.
simple answer for such simple question
stop questioning about religion, it's too sensitive topics and better let the politicians do that not us